DAP, DPP - wer will es doppelt?

Hi fierce and shameless,
Totally agreement with your opinions.
But what i had in mind i m worried about the thoughts by consumerside the pain could be one and most motivation buying this sort of porn. Renee can think and say whatever she will do - she get the money - what i find right. But peace and love ....
At the Moment pain and the crueltys round of the world are a good mixture against peace and freedom. OK, this fact is not a point to discuss here in this forum, i see.
And also OK, i like good pictures, too, and if i see sperm swallowing, cream pieing by a well stunning girl i have very fine associations for my dayly wanking.
A good vid lives by this - fantasy is the point.
peace and love
your
pen

Originally posted by Fiercedragon
I think the olympic motto "citius - altius - fortius" (faster-higher-stronger) should not be applied to sexuality or pornography at all costs.

Sure not at all costs, but it should be a part of it, IMO. Citius-altius-fortius combined with variety and good erotic tease should be the basic of any dvd, I think.

I dont agree with you that customers have no power on what is produced by the porn biz. If you read broadly known big US-porn forums populated by US-porn fans and biz-insiders alike ADT, you can clearly notice a rising customer demand for sex acts that where deemed very extreeme only a few years back - DAP and anal creampies are good examples here. While some years back there was only 1 DAP-line out there on the market (Double Anal Club by Frank Thring, not an influential direcor besides), we now have at least 4 of them. The same with creampies.
I have not seen any industry yet producing something that does not sell. And DAP has to sell good, because it is quite expensive to produce.

I also dont agree with that conviction that an 18 y.o. girl does not understand what she is getting into. On the contrary, I meet a lot of 16 y.o. daily who are much more mature as some 32 y.o. I know.

About the use of pain-releaves I dont know that much. In Russia I have never heard of any girl using them besides to get rid of a headache after too much of vodka the night before.

For pen: If a girl enjoys the combination of lust and pain and the viewer enjoys to see that I see no problem at all. The world certainly is full of violence these days. If all murdereres, rapists and soldiers would watch porn instead, the World was a much better place...

DPP und DAP finde unter optischen Gesichtspunkten nicht sehr reizvoll. Für meinen Geschmack ist das etwas zuviel des Guten. Ich mag eher den klassischen Doggie DP, der sehr schön anzuschauen ist, sofern er aus dem richtigen Blickwinkel geflimt ist und die Beleuchtung stimmt. DPP's und DAP's fallen für mich fast schon in die Kategorie "Circus Acts". Ich habe zwar kein Problem, mir einen DPP bzw. DAP anzuschauen, aber es ist, wie schon gesagt, nicht meine favorisierte Stellung. Einen Doggie DP mit gleichzeitigem Blowjob finde ich viel interessanter als irgendwelche DPP's, DAP's oder gar TAP's.

SevenOfNine

...is it finally done? the TAP?


so long,
Max

Fierce, it`s a fairly long time since we started this discussion. But let me still answer: I agree with you that more variety would not harm in todays porn.
As for DAP/DPP the incentive of my girls is better payment. Doing DAP they earn more than double the single anal fee. Though DAP is quite expensive an act to shoot, I sell it really good through my agency. It`s because porn directors clearly want to shoot it and can sell this stuff. My girls dont take painkillers, they just train their sphincter. But than Russian girl may be more prepared to endure some pain than other girls. Its a cultural thing.
Still many of my actresses do really get off during DAP on set. As everywhere it is difficult to generalize. Shooting DAPs myself I try to take the girls really into it. Results are just better. Only for some special effects and some of my fake-rape stuff I deliberately book the girls doing it just for the money. They convey a good rape reality feel still doing it all volontarily.

hi shameless,

thanks for your statement and the little "peek" into your business that you allowed us.

Since I believe that the best results in porn are achieved, when all the involved parties do what they can do best it's good to know that the girls you work with are treated well - not only regarding the money!

cheers,
fiercedragon

As a consumer I prefer DPs, since you barely can see any hole but plenty of dicks with DAPs. It's about the penetration, so I wanna see those dicks go in and out and if I can't see the pussy or ass, what is that technique for?

As a talent I also prefer DPs. But sometimes when I work with the right guys, DAPs or DPPs are a great experience.

Talking about the money part... Shameless, how much do you pay the girls for an anal scene, when they get twice the anal rate for doing a DAP? If you give me me my anal rate twice I am already on my way to your place...

_______
yours
Renee

TAP in Acid Rain's "The Ole In & Out #2" (See boxcover).

SevenOfNine